Yes but the WTS would lose control....
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afterall, most of us spent years there.
many of us took our time and money to build the hall.
many of us renovated the hall afterwards.. shouldn't the halls belong to the ones who built it and put money into it and who go there regularly?.
Yes but the WTS would lose control....
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hi, i hope this hasnt been said before - i searched back a bit but didnt see anything - but anyway i was round at my ex's getting my children when i came across the creation awake, and read a bit in a box about are jw's creationists.
it stated that creationists believe that the earth and everything on it was created in literal days and yet this is not in the bible.
i then began to read how the wts claims there was some thick cloud (but no proof provided) that obscured the sun which acording to them was already in existance.
Hi, I hope this hasnt been said before - I searched back a bit but didnt see anything - but anyway I was round at my ex's getting my children when I came across the creation Awake, and read a bit in a box about are JW's creationists. It stated that creationists believe that the earth and everything on it was created in literal days and yet this is NOT in the Bible. I then began to read how the WTS claims there was some thick cloud (but no proof provided) that obscured the sun which acording to them was already in existance. And as each creative day passed this cloud disapated and allowed the sun to shine through. So I grabbed her Bible and read aloud the scripture:
Gen 1: 16 And God proceeded to make the two great luminaries, the greater luminary for dominating the day and the lesser luminary for dominating the night, and also the stars. 17 Thus God put them in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth, 18 and to dominate by day and by night and to make a division between the light and the darkness.
Now although this doesnt make sense from the point of view of earlier verses, the WTS teaching is certainly not a provable or Biblical answer either - in other words their teaching of this thick cloud can also be said to NOT be in the Bible!
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Enjoyable comments, thanks Blondie! I too missed the flip flop of the courtyard, with so much going on it was hard to know what we did or didnt believe. I love the way they try to make their two classes of Christians work in the publications - unfortunately when you are in you are somewhat blinded to what the scriptures really say about true christians.
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ok so i am a ex-witness,(disfellowshiped) i have posted here before...but i must say why have'nt we moved on?
come on i mean if we all really thought that the jw sect was just that then why are we not trying to forget it and let life go on as it has; and try to be true to ourselves and our neighbor and read jesus words as recorded in the bible?
i have been reading my bible on lunch breaks at my work, as well as reading in the dhammapada.
here here, lady lee!
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what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.
is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.
if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.
GRRRRRR! This makes me so mad!!!! I was one of these 'youths' who felt simply terrible about my bad habit - I was crying during a JC because of all the other sins I had commited this was the only one I couldnt stop. Its so awful of those idiots to keep printing this utter shyte. The poor kids who have such low feelings of themselves doing something thats so natural - afterall who shows you how to do it? You just get curious and thats it. And as has been pointed out if you dont masterbate you have wet dreams, with erotic thoughts, so even though you might be strong to resist it gets you anyway!
This was the primary reason I left the Dubs. I had had enough of feeling SO guilty over this. Once I let it go, I found I was no longer obsessed with it anyhow. So just like a diet if you contantly condemn something like this thats natural its all you can think about which makes relapses more frequent. Once I knew they had got this wrong it allowed me to explore all the other things I'd argued about in my head.
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the anti sex beatings from the wtbts go on and on!.
november 1st 2006 'awake'.
this particular mag has an article on 'does romantic love justify premrital sex?'.
Thx for posting this one! Its so true its the WTS labelling of it and the guilt they constantly heap on young couples that causes many problems. As one who had premarital sex as a JW, I know it helped influence me to 1) marry the person - to make it right (flawed yes, but I was young) and 2) it caused my wife to feel bad about sex for the rest of our married life (sex = being bad)
I'm not saying if you want to live as the Bible says you dont have to abstain, the problem comes from the constant minute analysing of it and making such a big song and a dance about it. Who are the congregation (FDS) to keep passing judgement on a couple? Its up to the couple to make things right between them and God, not an organisation to keep up a constant stressful guilt trip.
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i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).
(and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).
anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.
Hi Chiddy!
I'm not far from you, near Gatwick, nice to have another more local person!
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i have read to get your exercise quoter in for the day you should be walking at least 10,000 steps per day.................yikes.
ive just taken the dog for his usual 30 minute walk and on average i clocked up about 500 steps per 5 mins...............it wasnt very acurate cos he kept stopping and starting...................but that s only about 3,000 steps per 30 minute walk.. as im not very active ( spend too much time on here) where do i get my other 7,000 steps in ?
i would have to be walking round all day.
I have no opinion on this thread other than to say it sounds a lot to do and i'm relpying so vitty can have another post on her thread, which she told us about on gabby chat!
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my care had an interesting conversion with 2 male jws.. they said that world peace(or should that be armageddon?
) will happen any second soon, so they were desperately knocking on people doors to convert them!.
My ex wife keeps going on about the end of religion is about to happen - in line with their tract i think. I thought it had fallen when the WTS was chosen in 1919 Double talk as usual from those book publishers. Its a lesson in how to live in constant fear and guilt, how often can individuals be whipped up into a another nearly here???
Also like to say welcome back to Ballistic!
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he kept his money in its proper place?when he encountered widows or orphans, he helped them?but only fellow believers as jws only help other jws, if that.. .
mature christians?only jws.
christian?s integrity?only jws.
Thanks for the comments Blondie!
I was using example's of charactors such as Job to illustrate the big gulf between the OT and the NT, in one you have God allow Job to suffer - aparantly for some test his enemy gives him - and yet Job and his wife loses their first 10 children (how loving of God) where as in the NT its all God is love and turn the other cheek, but how can it be the same God?
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